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I've been accumulating pics for yet another Take That pic spam, and I thought the occasion of the release of their latest video wouldn't be a bad time to finally do it. Especially since the video contains scruffy!Mark, and the pic spam is all about Mark and his occasional scruffiness.

First, have the video, for When We Were Young:



And in case the embed doesn't work, here's the direct link: http://youtu.be/MlVw6eGpY5g

This video is just gorgeous. It was shot in black and white in Wembley stadium after their concert dates last week, and has the five of them spread out through the debris-strewn stadium until they finally, gloriously, come together at the end. There is hugging, there is hand-holding, and since the song is pretty much about what they went through in their youth as part of the band, it's all very poignant.

Here's a shot of Mark, behind the scenes at the video shoot:

I adore this pic. He's got a bit of scruff happening, which I find lovely, but I also like how he looks a bit harder than he usually does here. It's an interesting change from his usual public persona, which is much sunnier.

This is a more usual look for Mark, taken at one of the dates on the current concert tour:

Not only is he not generally scruffy, but he's usually the smiling, cheerful one. In public, at least. And I do love him when he's all freshly scrubbed.

But I also have to admit that I like him scruffy. (I do like the scruffy ones, from Sean Bean and Boromir to Howard and Jason in TT. Also, there's the Sweetie to consider. *g*) So what follows is an appreciation of scruffy!Mark, roughly in order of increasing scruffiness.

First up are a couple of slightly scruffy pics. Even in his thirties, Mark seems to be the sort of bloke who has to really work at growing any sort of beard whatsoever, so quite often his scruffiness is of the rather wispy sort. Which makes him more adorable, in my books. Slightly scruffy Mark, exhibit one:


And exhibit two:


There's a slight bit more scruffiness in this next one, and also some indication of Mark's clothes horse tendencies. He's the member of the band most concerned with fashion, and occasionally will act as the unofficial stylist for the band. (When they re-united, Mark was the one who bought Vogue and did his research and picked the suits they wore to the premiere screening of the documentary that brought them back together.)


The next two are from the video for Up All Night. In the video, the band are a sort of street urchin version of themselves, playing at a street party for the Queen's jubilee. It's a charming video, and Mark is approaching the apex of his scruffiness here:


Scruffy hair, scruffy beard, scruffy leather jacket, and half-finger gloves. ::sigh::


Here's the link to the video, because it really is charming: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gzDFf0M-N4

And here he is in rehearsals for (I think) the Beautiful World tour:

Again, there's a high scruff quotient, plus it's one of those times where he clearly just throws him into the music, and I love him for that.

But this pic, this one, is the one I love best, and the reason I wanted to do this pic spam in the first place.

I don't have a date for it, but it looks like it's from the wilderness years, when he'd gone solo. There's just something about the self-satisfied scruffiness he's exhibiting here that I love. Plus there's that shirt/blouse. Mark is a small bloke and tends to the flamboyant, and has been known to wear clothes from the women's end of the shop. This is clearly one of those times, and it's another thing I love him for.
(ETA: [livejournal.com profile] nevermind68 says this is from the Concert for Diana, and that TT were there.)

As I was pulling the pics together for this, I started noticing there were rather a lot of Barlowen pics that fit the brief. This was interesting, since if I had to pick a pairing for Mark, it would be Willowen, not Barlowen. And yet he and Gary are so adorable together in these shots, I decided they had to get their own section of the pic spam.

First up is one from the Stardust premiere, with Mark looking ridiculously happy and Gary looking just slightly possessive.


This is from the same premiere, and I love that here they both look ready to commit mischief.


Another mischievous!Mark pic, with the added bonus of one of the hats he's rather famous for these days:


And one final Barlowen pic. Mark's not scruffy here at all (though he does have the hat) but I had to include this because it is utterly adorable. And one of those many TT moments that it is just darn difficult to explain without the slash.

Date: 2011-07-17 01:33 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nevermind68.livejournal.com
I adore the last one - it looks like proposal ))))) or serenading. Don`t know what is more adorable)))

The photo where Mark is in pink - It`s Concert for Diana, if i remember it correctly. TT was there))

Date: 2011-07-17 02:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
Maybe Gary is delivering a serenading proposal. *g*

Thanks for the info on that photo. I found it completely without context, so I had no idea where it came from.

Date: 2011-07-18 01:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
The links are brilliant! Thanks so much.

It's amazing that even given the amount of TT stuff I've found out there, there's always something amazing turning up. I feel like I've only just scratched the surface.

Date: 2011-07-17 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callistosh65.livejournal.com
That is one great vid and song actually, so I am going to bite - tell me Oh Take That Wise One, is it off a recent CD that I could get hold of?

Date: 2011-07-17 08:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halotolerant.livejournal.com
*unable to resist answering, accompanied by cackling sounds*
*enjoys pimping Take That*
*a lot*

It's one of the tracks on the 2008 album 'The Circus':
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Circus_(Take_That_album)
The other singles were
- 'Greatest Day' (http://youtu.be/zHzMLGH1Rfs)

- 'Said it All'


- 'The Garden'


-'Hold up a Light'


Did I mention I like pimping Take That? *sheepish chuckle*

*runs away*

Date: 2011-07-19 05:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callistosh65.livejournal.com
Hey, thank you - it was rather lovely to sit back and watch all that..

Date: 2011-07-17 09:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
Or if you mean the first video, it is from their latest CD, Progressed. (As opposed to Progress, which came out last fall, and it also utterly fab. As a bonus, Progressed also contains everything off Progress, so if you get it you, unlike me, will not be buying a bunch of songs twice. Not that I really begrudge doing it.)

::rubs hands gleefully at the thought of pulling another mate into the TT madness::

Date: 2011-07-18 01:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
Okay, now that I've got some more time, here's the details on Progressed:

The song that hooked me on the madness is Kidz, from the initial Progress release. Here's the video, which is a crazy scifi, time travelling, steampunk thing of wonder:


And if the embed fails, here's the direct link: http://youtu.be/jlapv48d7VQ

The last single, before When We Were Young, was Love Love, which was used for the end credits of the X-Men movie. Except in North America. (No, I'm not bitter; why do you ask. :-/ ) Here's the X-Men/TT video for it:


And the direct link: http://youtu.be/qIkFY6TFvc8

And for the funny, also from Progress, here's the Take That boys running an "audition" for a TT cover band, and ending up with the like of the Little Britain blokes and Catherine Tate. Plus, the song is too much fun:


And the direct link:
http://youtu.be/7YSxb7lP78Y

I got my copies of both Progress and Progressed as iTunes downloads. Amazon UK also has it, here

Edited Date: 2011-07-18 01:31 am (UTC)

Date: 2011-07-19 05:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] callistosh65.livejournal.com
Wow, thank you hon for all that! I'd definitley like to get my hands on the songs on that CD, but I'll have to wait until I'm abroad next. iTunes downloads doesn't allow that stuff here - I have hadpirited back and forth with both Amazon UK and iTunes about this nonsense - and Amazon won't export a lot of music CDs out of Europe.

I do appreciate the nice visuals, though:-)

Date: 2011-07-17 05:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anniina85.livejournal.com
Slighly scruffy Mark is all kinds of sexy! But I don't like him with too much hair on his face, no point in hiding the pretty, eh? ;)

The blouse he wore at the Diana concert is an excellent example of how he can get away with wearing the silliest stuff, and look hot while doing it! Not many guys can walk around in a shirt that's clearly from the women's department and look *that* goog ;) I just love his dress sense *g*

He's looking sooooooo good in the new video. I love when he has that broody look, at times almost looking a bit sad, and very thoughtfull. That said, I also adore the smiles. He has the most beautiful smile :)

Date: 2011-07-18 01:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
I have a fondness for beards (if you can call Mark's attempts at facial hair a beard) so for me that look is just another flavour of pretty. *g* Not that I don't also like 'im clean shaven.

I do adore him in the new video, though. Especially the progress he makes in it, from broody and sad through to the brilliant smiles when they all come together at the end.

Date: 2011-07-18 07:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anniina85.livejournal.com
"(if you can call Mark's attempts at facial hair a beard)" Haha! That is a good point! In certain light his scruffy face can look pretty cleanshaven. You practically need a close-up picture to actually tell that he has stubble on his face LOL! I think I read somewhere that he had been preparing weeks for the Upp all night videoshoot, as in groving the beard, haha! Bless him ;)
A bit of stubble is perfectly fine, but to me, a full beard just doesn't look right on his face...

He does look a bit lost at the beginning, standing alone in the middle of the huge stadium. And then obviously feels at home when they all come together :)

Date: 2011-07-17 08:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halotolerant.livejournal.com
PICSPAM \o/

I am not generally speaking a fan of Mark's, ahem, 'beard' but you've got some shots of it looking rather good here, and, interestingly, that suddenly makes me find him slightly attractive (particularly the Diana concert one - nice!)(whereas usually he's the only one I really don't find hot, for all that he is beautiful and all the others *with* him is a concept of which I am most fond *g*). He's doing the 'post-apocalyptic-wasteland' face as far as I'm concerned in WWWY video, which I naturally approve of!

The one with the blue t-shirt is indeed BW tour rehearsals, and yes, one of the lovely things about Mark Owen live is he just *skips*, honest to god, like four year olds do, skips and bounces and twirls across the stage ♥

I do wonder if Gary misses having so much Markie!worship focussed on him since Robbie came back! *evil plot bunnies zoom forth*

'and all that's left to say to you / is to smile while the lights are on /this never was enough for you / now we both know where we belong' [Man]
Although Gary sings this I've heard theories that it was written by Mark or by Robbie, but I certainly assumed it was about Mark. And I like to think it is Gary's thoughts about him (with Mark's answer 'I've never given so much to another / no not to another lover') - although I don't always find Barlowen exciting to write it fits one of my favourite things, the plot where there's one shiny, fabulous person who breaks your heart and leaves you and then there's another, maybe less pretty, less confident person waiting beside you all the time who turns out to be the happy ending *g*

Date: 2011-07-18 02:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
Yes, to call that stuff on Mark's face an actual "beard" is to stretch the definition of the word a bit, but I'm still rather fond of him when he gets all scruffy.

It's weird, because of the five of them he would not normally be the bloke I went for (for the record, that would be Howard) but there's just some mix of his looks and his personality and his biography that have grabbed me more than any of the other five.

Hooray for 'post-apocalyptic wasteland' face. (I feel like I should watch the video for, oh, the millionth time and then go re-re-re-read The After Life for, oh, the million and first time. *g*

He does skip, doesn't he? (Is the Progress tour DVD out yet? Is it out now?)

I've been wondering more and more about the whole Gary/Mark/Rob dynamic. How Gary's taking not having quite the exclusive focus of the Markie worship. But also how Mark is taking the news that Rob wants to work on his next solo project with Gary. (Is it bad that I keep thinking "Rob, if you think Mark is such a genius, why don't you want to work with him?") Yes, those evil plot bunnies are multiplying exponentially.

As for Man, I had a minor revelation about it this week, which someone else may have noticed/commented on already. I was listening to Progressed at work whilst proofreading a boring manual, and Man came on, with that synthetic robot-y voice. I'd never given who does that voice a second thought, but it's saying "Fragile" and I suddenly notice that it's got the patented Mark Owen inability to say "r" and realize that it's probably Mark. Confirmed a bit more when the voice says "Be gracious," and yet again blows the "r". Now I can't stop listening to that song.

Barlowen is not my preferred pairing, but I've been reading a lot of it on [livejournal.com profile] markiewhumpers and have taken my first stab at it with the IWFL story. Since it's a Robbie-free AU universe, I don't get to play with the dynamic of that triangle, but I am messing with the usual Barlowen dynamic and having Mark be the more confident, if slightly crazy, one, and Gary be more tentative. (The friend I've pimped into TT--have I mentioned she's sending me RPS plot bunnies now?--watched a bunch of interviews with Robbie and Gary and picked up on the fact that Gary's rather quieter in those ones than you'd expect, and I started thinking about the other ways he sometimes betrays what might be a lack of confidence, like the way his hands are *always* moving and that thing he does with his mouth.)

Date: 2011-07-18 08:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halotolerant.livejournal.com
You've managed to track down, though, the images where it does look like a beard rather than unfortunate adolescent bum-fluff (sorry Markie, but this is a true observation)

Pretty is not my thing, male or female, but with added scruffy Mark tips more into my categories *g* But I love Mark as a person/character and, as I've said, I find combining him with the others ridiculously hot *g* He brings a kind of catalyst of sexuality to the band, I think.

OH DO WANT THE DVD *pokes Universal Music* Hopefully with many, many backstage extras, while I'm wishing *g*

Gary/Mark/Rob has always been interesting and continues to be more and more so. When Robbie and Gary did their duet, there was a lot of unhappiness in certain parts of fandom that Robbie had 'stolen' Gary from Mark or that Gary had abandoned him, OR that Gary had replaced Mark is Robbie's affections (the latter of which at least all got sorted out in the first five seconds we saw Rob and Mark together *g*), because as you'll have seen, Barlowen has been the number one popular pairing during the comeback. This is what I love about RPS, though, because if this *was* all fictional there'd be something stark like Bella picking Edward or Jacob (I'm really sorry, I can't think of a more literary example of someone picking one of two acceptable guys!), whereas in life there's lovely layers and we can keep playing *g*

Your fic sounds more and more exciting *grabby hands* Sometimes a universe with four rather than five is rather easier to handle in several ways! And yay for your friend's plot bunnies - does she write herself? Sounds like she needs to read 'My Take' *g*

By the way, have you seen the Channel Four Parody 'Star Stories'? (it was on one Jonathan Ross interview so I guess maybe you have) It's the reason Take That yell 'taaaaaaake that!' all the time, because they are the coolest celebs ever and have embraced their own parody *g* Don't know if this link will work for you (Channel 4 YT & they seemed to have removed all others) but if not the DVD might be quite cheap and it's fab.
Here: http://youtu.be/iuJSg0LaK3g

If you can't see it, bascially one point of it is that all Howard says is the Wookie noise *g* Here is him embracing that during BW ♥


And this is another parody, from the wilderness years. Painful viewing in some ways but interesting too. This is why David Walliams was a little nervous about meeting Howard to do Happy Now - he said in an interview Howard told him it was brilliant and quoted half the lines back at him ♥ ♥




Oh yes, that's definitely Mark at the start of 'Man' (some think he's describing himself, which seems fairly likely, which is why some people think he's written the whole song, although again I like to think of it as a love duet). It's Jason speaking at the start of 'Alien' I believe.

Date: 2011-07-19 02:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
You've managed to track down, though, the images where it does look like a beard rather than unfortunate adolescent bum-fluff

Heh. So true. (Sorry Markie.)

I have the same issues with pretty, generally, which is no doubt why I've gravitated to the scruffed up Mark. But yeah, add him to the rest of the group, and suddenly he, and the rest of them, are a powder keg of interesting sexuality.

This is what I love about RPS, though, because if this *was* all fictional there'd be something stark like Bella picking Edward or Jacob (I'm really sorry, I can't think of a more literary example of someone picking one of two acceptable guys!), whereas in life there's lovely layers and we can keep playing *g*

I'm kinda amused by the Twilight references, because it does sort of work, doesn't it? *g* But yes, thankfully there's no need to only pick one of the pairings and there are all sorts of lovely layers going on. (Interestingly, the friend I have oh, so sucessfully pimped has imprinted on Mark/Robbie and Howard/Jason and is now refusing to read any other pairings. (Yep, she does write, though she's currently a Jack/Ianto Torchwood gal. Shall have to work on that. Must feed her My Take. And she's already asked for another TT night, and I'm going to pull out the BW documentary. Canonical hurt/comfort FTW!)

[livejournal.com profile] soundofthesurf had pointed me toward the Star Stories a little while back, and yeah, it's funny and painful all at the same time. At the time, we were discussing how giving Howard the wookie voice was bad, but we were relieved they didn't have a go at his lisp. But OMG, David Walliams *did*! Crikey, I would have been petrified to meet Howard if I were him. Good thing Howard's a good sport. Love him doing the wookie in concert! And I had no idea them doing the "Taaaake That" was quoting Star Stories. I thought it was Star Stories playing with something they used to do back in the day. Just shows how awesome they are, having fun with their own parodies.

I'm glad I was write about Mark doing the start of Man, even if it took me for bloody ever to figure it out. That it's describing himself seems very likely (Fragile, Tortured, indeed) But yeah, viewing it as a love duet just makes it more delicious. That it's Jason at the start of Alien makes sense. (*That* song has had me earwormed for days now. It wasn't one I immediately liked, but it's definitely grown on me.)

Date: 2011-07-19 10:06 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halotolerant.livejournal.com
Jack/Ianto sounds like a good preparation for the angst fest that is Mark/Robbie *g* And oh yeah, canonical h/c excellent! (I am SO glad I wasn't into them when that happened - I mean that seriously could have killed him and I would have freaked out probably until I'd seen his chest x-ray post-drain *g*). And if she's into Mark/Robbie, the relevant sections of 'Feel' by Chris Heath should make her happy too *g*

Howard is *such* a good sport, I love that about him (like when he and Jason tell Jonathan Ross he doesn't know which of them is which - I love how much they grin as they do it!). And yes, 'Taaaaaake That!' starts in the backstage for BW when that Star Stories was broadcast- they're completely embracing their own parody ♥

Minute for minute, I think I love Progressed even more than Progress - I love every single track apart from 'Don't Say Goodbye' which is a little too ballady for me. The Mark words at the start of Man are also played in the tour at the start of the aerial water ballet before 'The Flood', not that that matters much but since you mention it *g*

I LOVE 'Alien' - Howard and Mark singing that they're aliens and in the carnage of the crash they will stick together? I have half a fic already... *g*

Date: 2011-07-20 03:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
The pneumothorax is tolerable now because we all know it ends happily, but yeah, if I'd been into them then it would have been a tad concerning. (I felt bad enough about Robbie's food poisoning this past weekend. Poor lad must be prone to it. When he came to Toronto the once the show was 3 hours late starting. When he finally took the stage he revealed he'd had a horrible bout of it and had just recovered enough to perform. Even though he must have been feeling awful, he still put on a hell of a show.)

I think I'm going to have to break down and get Feel myself. I got a copy of You Know Me last week, and while I'm not reading it as obsessively as I did Take One, I am thoroughly enjoying it. Not quite enough TT or Mark for me, but I'd almost forgotten what a fascinating guy Robbie is on his own.

I think I may be with you on Progressed, although Kidz is still the song that trumps everything for me. And yeah, Don't Say Goodbye is over my ballad threshold a bit. (I was listening to The Circus tonight on the way home from acupuncture, and I'm sad to say I hit skip on most of the Gary songs. Love the rest of the album though.

The Mark words at the start of Man are also played in the tour at the start of the aerial water ballet before 'The Flood', not that that matters much but since you mention it *g*

Okay, that DVD can really not come out too soon. :-|

I LOVE 'Alien' - Howard and Mark singing that they're aliens and in the carnage of the crash they will stick together? I have half a fic already

Of course you do! And I will read and love it!

Date: 2011-07-20 10:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] halotolerant.livejournal.com
I read 'Feel' on the overnight train between Paris and Florence (as you do) and as such my memories of it are a bit blurry (I'm afraid since then I've just compulsively re-read the Mark bits and the Gary bit) but I think it's pretty interesting - certainly shows what his life had become at the point of his perhaps his peak of success in the UK. Very interesting to compare You Know Me to it in terms of his attitude to Take That and how much it really did change.

Oh that DVD, I'm even saving up pre-ordering it till there's cover art so I can drip-feed myself till November...

*g*

Date: 2011-07-22 11:01 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
Oh that DVD, I'm even saving up pre-ordering it till there's cover art so I can drip-feed myself till November...

There's a pre-order up!!!!! Very exciting! I've added it to my wishlist, but yeah, shall wait until there's proper cover art to make my order. (November seems such a long way away, but I suppose I've got the September re-release of Take Two to look forward too. *g*)

Date: 2011-07-19 02:36 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com

I know this is off topic but my lovely mate Loz just posted this Miller and Armstrong comedy sketch and I HAD to repost it for you.

Why, you ask? PAY VERY CLOSE ATTENTION! *g*


Date: 2011-07-19 02:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
Auugghhh, I won't be able to watch this until tonight! And now the curiosity is going to keeeel me! Keeeel me, I tell you. :-/

Date: 2011-07-19 02:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
Okay, I can now see a frame from the video. Is that Doyle's barrow stall?!

Date: 2011-07-19 02:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com

No, it contains a totally unexpected guest appearance. If I tell you who, it'll spoil it as it's a tiny sight gag moment.

Date: 2011-07-19 02:58 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
It's time like these that I curse being in the one desk where everything I do is visible from the lobby. (It's a nice space, but a bit, shall we say, exposed.)

Hmmm, my training room is free this afternoon. Perhaps I'll have to hole up there for a few minutes to do "research."

Date: 2011-07-19 04:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com

I wouldn't like that either. I'm right at the end of a short corridor so no one has any reason to get as far as me unless it's me they want to talk to.

Date: 2011-07-20 03:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
Oh. My. God!

That is far too awesome. (When they rhymed "farmer's market" with "Morten Harket" I thought, noooo, they wouldn't have got him. But they did!)

And how awesome is it that they can use Morten Harket as a tiny sight gag and people will get it! I need to live in England, really I do. :-/

In other news, it is indicative of the state of my life at the moment that it's taken until 11:30 tonight to find the time to watch this 3 minute clip. ARRRRGGGGHHHHH.

Oh well, at least my Big Bang story has just crossed 18,000 words, and is coming along. Slowly.

Date: 2011-07-20 11:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] draycevixen.livejournal.com

You can see now why I couldn't tell you what it was as half the fun is the surprise of it. I had to watch that part twice just to confirm it was him.

I know, I know, you just want Morten's... mustard. *g*

*\o/* Look a that word count grow. *dips you*

Date: 2013-09-17 08:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forthewistful.livejournal.com
I love, love, love your picture and video spams! ♥

This very late comment of mine might seem a bit stalkerish, but I just felt the need to express how adorable Mark looks in that feminine blouse. He truly is the one for the flashy, colourful, eye-catching outfits and that's definitely something to adore and appreciate in him.

A friend of mine (the one who's been a TT-fan for more than 15 years) thinks that ageing doesn't do Mark any good, a point I had to firmly disagree with her. Especially when you consider that he's a former alcohol addict.

Oh, and the last one with Gary is adorable as well. Mark looks like Oliver Twist in it. (So does Jason in the Up All Night-video. Yay for baker boy caps.)

Date: 2013-09-18 12:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
You can totally be stalkerish if it involves talking about TT and Mark. *g*

I pretty much adore Mark's clothes sense, not least because it's frighteningly similar to mine. I always go for the bold and unusual whenever possible.

I'm with you on thinking Mark is aging just fine. I especially like when he goes all serious, like in this icon. Though it's a darn good thing he's now a recovering alcoholic, because I do think it was beginning to affect his looks. There are some pics from when he was still drinking where he's frighteningly sunken-eyed, but he's much healthier looking now.

An Oliver Twist AU would be rather fun, no? *g*

Date: 2013-09-18 10:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forthewistful.livejournal.com
Good to know. :D

People with flamboyant clothing styles who don't go with the flow fashion dictates are always a good thing. I sometimes wished people were more daring like that.

It's such a relief Mark managed to pull himself together in time. I only hope he can keep the teetotalism up. His stricken look on one of the DVDs where there's talk about booze and he insists, vehemently, that he can't drink alcolhol anymore, not ever, ouched me to the core.

That really sounds like fun. So would a The Secret History or Love in Thoughts AU. Hmmmm...

Date: 2013-09-18 12:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
I sometimes wished people were more daring like that.

Me too! More than once I've had people compliment me on something I'm wearing, but then say "but I could never wear something like that." Why not, is what I want to know.

I have hopes that Mark will be able to keep up the teetoalism. He seems devoted to his family, and I like to think he'd never risk losing them through drink. And I know what you mean about that moment in LBDS. The look on his face...

Oh, I wasn't familiar with either The Secret History of Love or Love in Thoughts, but both look fascinating!

Date: 2013-09-18 12:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forthewistful.livejournal.com
Yes, that exactly! I've got quite a flymboyant style myself sometimes (rather colourful, feminine, flower patterns, dresses, ...) and a lot of people tell me they don't think they could ever work up the courage to dress like that. And I always tell them that as soon as you feel well in what you wear and think it suits you, you can wear basically everything. But I guess it all boils down to having a healthy self-esteem or not.

That look on his face has been haunting me since I've first seen it. Poor shellshocked Markie. And yes, I also like to believe that he'd do whatever it takes to make his family happy.

Oh, and I didn't mean "The Secret History of Love" (which does indeed look fascinating as well, though) but "The Secret History" by Donna Tartt.

Date: 2013-09-19 01:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] przed.livejournal.com
Healthy self-esteem definitely helps, as does just a dogged determination to wear what you want and damn what anyone else thinks. (I didn't have buckets of self-esteem as a kid and young teenager, but remember wearing things that I wanted to, in spite of getting grief from both my mum and certain friends.)

It is a look that haunts one. And then there's that shot of him after he's sung What Do You Want from Me, and he's got his head in his hands and he's practically shaking. That one really gets to me.

Hmmm, The Secret History also looks fascinating...

Date: 2013-09-19 05:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] forthewistful.livejournal.com
Seems as if we've got several things in common: I wasn't the most confident of girls in my teens as well, I just didn't feel attractive or pretty. Sometimes I still don't, but then that's the kind of uncertainty that will probably stick to me until I die. (We all have demons lurking somewhere, haven't we?)

That's a very touching moment as well, right. Mark in such a desperate state is truly a sad sight to behold.

It's fascinating indeed. And devastating. And still so incredibly beautiful. I had such a huge crush on Henry Winter, one of the main characters.

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