So, the good news is I'm not in jail...
May. 29th, 2006 06:05 pmThe bad news is I got detained at the border on my way to MediaWest. For an hour and a half.
It all started when the officer at U.S. customs asked me to pop my trunk. Since I was carrying 20 copies of my vids, I knew I was in trouble. When she asked me to pull over to the side, I knew I was in big trouble.
Customs Dude: So, what's on the disks?
Me: Music videos I've made.
Customs Dude: Is this copyrighted material?
Me: Uhhhh.
Needless to say, this did not go well. Just try and explain song vids and fandom to a nice, clean-cut, young customs dude. While your adrenal glands are going into overdrive.
Customs Dude: Why do you make these videos?
Me: Ummm...
Customs Dude: How did you start doing this?
Me: I honestly have no idea how to answer that. Have you got 3 hours?
Then they stuck me in a little plastic chair in the lobby while they thoroughly searched my car.
Customs Dude: Is there anything I should know about in the car? Any weapons, explosives drugs?
Me: Um, no.
Then left me waiting longer while they watched the vids.
Customs Dude: We're going to have to refer this to a senior officer.
Customs dudes and dudettes file in and out of the office where they've taken the disk. At one point, three older customs dudes, complete with typical cop moustaches, stand at the back of the office and stare at me for ten minutes. All the while, I'm playing nightmare scenarios in my head. What if they confiscate the vids? What if they confiscate my car? What if they arrest me and THROW ME IN JAIL?
At one point, I start cycling through what's on the disks. I don't think there's anything too bad, until I realize the new vid is on the disk. The one called Pop A Boner. The one will lots and lots of male nudity and several shots of boys kissing boys. The adrenaline in my system hits record levels.
Finally, after an hour and a half, the nice, clean-cut, young customs dude comes back with the duffel containing my vids. And gives it back to me.
Customs Dude: We're going to give them back to you but...
Me: Don't do it again.
Customs Dude: Yeah. Basically. And if you want to do it again, mail the disks ahead.
Me: Um, okay.
So, I get in my car, drive to the first rest stop, leave a hysterical message on my sweetie's voicemail and do the rest of the drive to Lansing.
Fortunately, the rest of the con was fabulous and amazing, but I really could have done with a better start.
And at least I'm not in jail.
It all started when the officer at U.S. customs asked me to pop my trunk. Since I was carrying 20 copies of my vids, I knew I was in trouble. When she asked me to pull over to the side, I knew I was in big trouble.
Customs Dude: So, what's on the disks?
Me: Music videos I've made.
Customs Dude: Is this copyrighted material?
Me: Uhhhh.
Needless to say, this did not go well. Just try and explain song vids and fandom to a nice, clean-cut, young customs dude. While your adrenal glands are going into overdrive.
Customs Dude: Why do you make these videos?
Me: Ummm...
Customs Dude: How did you start doing this?
Me: I honestly have no idea how to answer that. Have you got 3 hours?
Then they stuck me in a little plastic chair in the lobby while they thoroughly searched my car.
Customs Dude: Is there anything I should know about in the car? Any weapons, explosives drugs?
Me: Um, no.
Then left me waiting longer while they watched the vids.
Customs Dude: We're going to have to refer this to a senior officer.
Customs dudes and dudettes file in and out of the office where they've taken the disk. At one point, three older customs dudes, complete with typical cop moustaches, stand at the back of the office and stare at me for ten minutes. All the while, I'm playing nightmare scenarios in my head. What if they confiscate the vids? What if they confiscate my car? What if they arrest me and THROW ME IN JAIL?
At one point, I start cycling through what's on the disks. I don't think there's anything too bad, until I realize the new vid is on the disk. The one called Pop A Boner. The one will lots and lots of male nudity and several shots of boys kissing boys. The adrenaline in my system hits record levels.
Finally, after an hour and a half, the nice, clean-cut, young customs dude comes back with the duffel containing my vids. And gives it back to me.
Customs Dude: We're going to give them back to you but...
Me: Don't do it again.
Customs Dude: Yeah. Basically. And if you want to do it again, mail the disks ahead.
Me: Um, okay.
So, I get in my car, drive to the first rest stop, leave a hysterical message on my sweetie's voicemail and do the rest of the drive to Lansing.
Fortunately, the rest of the con was fabulous and amazing, but I really could have done with a better start.
And at least I'm not in jail.
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Date: 2006-05-29 10:39 pm (UTC)How long have you been going and this is the first time this is happened?
Yikes - you can be sure they've flagged your license plate now. Glad they didn't throw you in the clink!
So how did the vid and accompanying story go over at the con?
Glad you're home safe.
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Date: 2006-05-30 02:30 am (UTC)But yeah, you just know they've got my licence recorded. I won't be crossing at Sarnia again for a while.
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Date: 2006-05-29 10:45 pm (UTC)I'd like to apologize for the xenophobia currently running rampant in my (well, I didn't vote the fuckers in, but I suppose I should take responsibility anyway) government.
Damn. I'm glad you're okay and had a good time at the con.
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Date: 2006-05-30 02:32 am (UTC)I'm considering myself very lucky to have gotten away with a warning, and I'll be making very sure I cross the border with nothing controversial from here on in. 'Cause you just know they've got my name entered in some computer somewhere now.
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Date: 2006-05-29 11:03 pm (UTC)Still, I'd have chipped in for your bail money. Assuming they'd let you have bail of course...
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Date: 2006-05-30 02:33 am (UTC)And now I know who to hit up for bail money. *g*
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Date: 2006-05-30 12:32 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-30 02:36 am (UTC)On the positive side, I can see the funny aspects now.
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Date: 2006-05-30 12:43 am (UTC)God. I would have been sick to my stomach with nerves. You poor guy.
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Date: 2006-05-30 02:36 am (UTC)And yeah, at one point I honestly thought I was close to throwing up.
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Date: 2006-05-30 01:13 am (UTC){{{P}}}
You've scared the pants off me, I don't mind telling ya. I'm really glad you came through it okay, but my GOD.
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Date: 2006-05-30 02:38 am (UTC)I'm going to be very careful with physical copies of the vids. And I may be re-thinking the website.
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Date: 2006-05-30 01:32 am (UTC)I would hope that your vids would be considered too much on the artistic expression/art side of things for you to be in danger of copyright violation or bootlegging but geez... Close call! When I think of all the times I travel with *copies* of my shows/movies, I shudder... I could so easily do prison time for that.
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Date: 2006-05-30 02:40 am (UTC)Vids could maybe, possibly be covered under the fair use provisions of copyright law, but it's a stretch. Fortunately, the studios mostly seem to realize that it's a no win scenario if they try to prosecute us and haven't hit any vidder with more than a C&D letter.
Ah, the things I do for my hobby.
Glad you're safe and sound and back home!
Date: 2006-05-30 01:32 am (UTC)Nads
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Date: 2006-05-30 02:41 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-30 01:46 am (UTC)Actually, since it is for humorous purposes, I suppose it *might* come under the Fair Use part of the Copyright Act. Maybe. *crosses fingers*
*still grinning like an idiot from seeing Pop a Boner*
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Date: 2006-05-30 02:42 am (UTC)I picked up your zine, and we also found the magnet you bought for your friend in Diana's room. I've got them both here so you can either pick 'em up or I can mail 'em off.
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Date: 2006-05-30 03:34 am (UTC)(Glad all was well in the end).
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Date: 2006-05-30 10:45 am (UTC)(I totally want to know what the conversation sounded like when they were watching the vids.)
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Date: 2006-05-30 04:40 am (UTC)Xlorp was pulled aside by the Canadian border police one time - his long hair. Plus he was carrying way too much chocolate (apparently). They quizzed him for a long time about that. he kept pointing to me (actually when they pulled him aside I insisited that I go with him. They kept saying it was not necessary.)
I agree with the mailing ahead suggestion (how funny was that - our govt at work). You should be OK with the website.
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Date: 2006-05-30 04:48 am (UTC)And the irony - some of this is true. I did start a video editing business. I did make a demo reel to those same specs and I did send it in. But I did not get hired.
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Date: 2006-05-30 05:04 am (UTC)You know, one weird thing about Yank customs agents -- they love the show of force of popping your trunk and inspecting it. Sometimes when you get a really macho asshat, he'll make sure to pull his beatstick out, too (this all sounds bizarrely sexual, doesn't it?), just to be extra threatening. The trick, apparently, is to never put anything iffy in the trunk. I've gotten in the habit now of crossing with anything that could be problematic in the front of the car, usually under a coat or something on the back seat, if it's not too huge. They focus intently on trunks, but almost never pay attention to the things inside the car. I used to go up all the time with this person who became nearly hysterical at the border and would start trying to admit things that were perfectly legal, but she was so unglued about everything that she made them sound illegal, and I got in the habit of preparing, even though now I usually go up with much calmer folks.
not that this, of course, in any way helps what happened to you.
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Date: 2006-05-30 10:53 am (UTC)But the tip about putting stuff in the back seat is a good one. She didn't check there at first; it was the second young dude who ripped the car apart.
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Date: 2006-05-30 08:39 am (UTC)I'm glad that nothing awful, other than what you had to go through, came of it.
Thank goodness all is well.
::Hugs::
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Date: 2006-05-30 10:54 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2006-05-30 08:56 am (UTC)I get to fight Homeland Security when I come back into the country (I was told they were supposed to check me out of the US, but no one at IAD had any clue about this and they just sent me through). You've made me think I should remember to mail my Pros discs etc ahead - no point asking for extra trouble...
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Date: 2006-05-30 10:57 am (UTC)As for your Pros discs, they're supposedly cracking down more on bootlegs these days, so if you're discs aren't the official ones I would definitely mail them ahead. (Apparently there was a raid in Detroit on an SF con to nab bootleg movies the week before. The theory is that my comment that I was going to an science fiction convention, which usually gets me a free pass at the border, is what actually got me searched this time.)
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Date: 2006-05-30 09:56 am (UTC)The things you do for your hobby, eh?;-) Now I want to know what was happening when the officers were watching the vids er.. together.*clears throat*
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Date: 2006-05-30 10:58 am (UTC)You and me both. *g*
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Date: 2006-05-30 05:30 pm (UTC)~Kris
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Date: 2006-05-31 02:10 am (UTC)But yeah, now it's just a funny story. Though I am preparing to be stopped at the border every time from now on, which isn't really so funny.
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Date: 2006-05-30 05:38 pm (UTC)Go you for making it through without falling apart!
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Date: 2006-05-31 02:12 am (UTC)I've got a lot of friends in the States, but it's really starting to feel more and more like a police state every time I cross the border.
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Date: 2006-06-04 05:57 pm (UTC)And thanks for getting a MFU panel together. It was fun and interesting, too.
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Date: 2006-06-05 02:45 am (UTC)I'm really glad you sat on the MFU panel. And that we got one together at all. The UNCLE crew always have such interesting discussions that I thought it was a shame that the two initial panel proposals were so uninspiring. IMO, of course.
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Date: 2008-12-17 09:40 pm (UTC)But you know my first thought when they said "Is this copyrighted material?" I probably would have given a dumb answer like, "Yes, I copyrighted them in March." The point of the question went right over my head.
I'm so glad it all turned out all right in the end. I loved Pop a Boner
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Date: 2008-12-18 05:13 am (UTC)Glad you enjoyed Pop a Boner. It's fluff, but it was fun fluff to make.